Green Party Worse Than Fianna Fail

Allegedly the Green Party was out telling ‘lies’ about the Poolbeg Incinerator before the last election, according to comments from senior people employed to promote the incinerator.

More Green Party Spin consistent with The Big Lie includes:

• The Green Party is not currently educating the Dublin public about potential Poolbeg Incinerator pollution.
• The Green Party is not currently demanding baseline Dublin health studies for the general Poolbeg area, and preferably for all of Dublin.

The Pontious Pilate and ‘lying‘(a) Green Party is now worse than Fianna Fail. At least everyone knew what to expect from Fianna Fail, run by The Galway Tent Cartel(b). The Greens have set back the credibility of environmental issues in Ireland by decades.
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(a) ‘possibly’ lying, maybe just green between the ears. (b) Current Galway Tent project: NAMA’s €90,000,000,000 of taxes and the €490,000,000,000 guaranteed by taxes.

Poolbeg Incinerator Promoters Cooking Up Air Studies?

PM 10 Air Pollution Kills

Air Pollution may kill 12 times more people in Poolbeg than in Tallaght or Clondalkin.

If Poolbeg pollution increases by just 20%, from 50ug/m3 to 60 ug/m3, then at least 26 times more people will be killed in Poolbeg. Hopefully DCC’s solution is not to kill more people in West Dublin to fix the ratio.

Cynically, neither Dublin City Council nor its agents such as Covanta appear to have produced clear information for the public about the potential health effects from their waste-to-toxins factory. Referring ‘Joe Soap’ to a one thousand page document, a cynically political EIS full of obfuscation, is less than honest work. EPA senioreta management is apparently as useless as the financial regulator and also stacked by FF, so be surprised if they do better at Poolbeg than at the chromium rich Cork harbour.

Poolbeg Incinerator Promoters Cooking Up Air Studies?
Now, long after the oral hearings, the incineration promoters are getting ready to defend against future court cases by starting to conduct curious ’studies’ of air quality around Poolbeg. If their jam jars for dis FF science are recyclable expect another ‘lying’ Green Party flyer.

Air Pollution Kills
Information Rich Version of Chart Above

NAMA – Trust Us

Trust Us.

Even More Covanta Pollution Violations – Poolbeg Waste To Toxins Incinerator Operator, Covanta

Happy to gamble having your life cut by two months to two years?

Do you trust Dublin City Council?
Would you trust a friend of Dublin City Council?

DCC’s friend Covanta looks like it could be an awesome operator of the proposed Poolbeg Incinerator, a waste-to-toxins factory which will most likely increase premature deaths across Dublin.

Billionaire mogul Zell sold his massive residential and commercial real estate empire in 2007 for $39 billion. Last year, Mr Zell’s shareholding in Covanta was worth $666 million. Covanta’s CEO was paid $3 million. The small fines imposed on Covanta are a serious joke. Even Seanie would agree they are ridiculous if he wasn’t working with the banks on the NAMA scam.

Extracts From The Poughkeepsie Journal of New York.

Mary Beth Pfeiffer • Poughkeepsie Journal • August 16, 2009

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090816/NEWS01/908160345/1006/Potential-trash-plant-operator-has-violations

Covanta has been fined for air pollution violations at five plants in three US states. A company spokeswoman, Vera Carley, did not dispute the findings.

The documents, verified by the Poughkeepsie Journal of New York, show that the plants, operated by Covanta Energy Corp. of Fairfield, N.J., emitted excessive levels of the pollutants nickel, soot [dangerous PM10's ?], carbon monoxide and sulfur dioxide and failed at times to adhere to minimum burning temperatures that help control smokestack pollutants.

In one case, a Chester, Pa., plant was fined $45,600 last October for emitting double the permissible level of the heavy metal nickel; five months later, it was again cited, for “multiple violations.”

In another, a Pittsfield, Mass., plant was fined $7,650 last September for emitting more than four times the permissible level of highly toxic dioxin; the plant failed for three months to report operating anomalies as required by state regulators, the documents show.

In addition to the environmental citations, Covanta also faces charges by the USA’s National Labor Relations Board that it has engaged in unlawful labor practices. The union also provided documents showing Covanta was fined around $20,000 this year by the U.S. Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration for 11 “serious” worker safety violations at the West Wareham plant. They included exposing workers to electric shock hazards and potential heat burns; failing to maintain emergency lighting and other equipment, and improperly storing combustible acetylene cylinders.

“Covanta is hostile to workers’ rights in the extreme,” said Mark Brooks, a union spokesman, adding the company “has a very flawed track record” on environmental and worker safety issues.

“It Only Emits Steam”
Said The DONG’s Dane at
Croke Park Oral Hearing.

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IBM has a large campus in Poughkeepsie.

What’s Iroquis for the “the toxins factory by the Poolbeg place”
Hint: Poughkeepsie Name origin: “the reed-covered lodge by the little-water place” in Iroquois

NAMA Purchase Example, IGB Ringsend, Only €450 Million.

NAMA Site Ringsend

Estate Agent: Mr. Gormley’s Fianna Fail
Banking Autocracy: Anglo-Irish Bank
Funding Autocracy: NAMA
Planning Autocracy: DDDA

Workers Fired: 300

Fools: Irish Taxpayers
Funding: Property Taxes
Press: N.Brennan (Governance Expert).

NAMA SITE EXAMPLE: ONLY €450 MILLION.

Trust us.
This site will be worth €450 Million in thirty years time.
So why wait.
Do the sums.
Buy today.
For only €450 Million.

The site is hardly polluted at all, at all, and EPA can fix that.

The site has no planning permission, but DDDA can fix that.
Otherwise DDDA is bankrupt.
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Some sums

Covanta Incinerator Leaves Land Polluted with Dioxins, Arsenic, Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbons

When Covanta leaves toxins and destroyed wildlife at an Incinerator site in the USA why would anyone rely on the New Jersey outfit in Ireland? Apart from the patriotic Fianna Fail and Green cronies of the Galway Tent Cartel.

The Massachusetts site [1] was simply buried in three feet of soil because that was the cheapest option!

It seems Covanta dodged any responsibility for cleaning up after its waste-to-toxins incineration caper. The local state had to pay up for the cheaper-is-better pollution containment. Perhaps Covanta gave a few shekels to the local advertising-desperate-press for some of the usual spin. Perhaps not. No doubt Covanta’s lawyers ensured they stuck to the letter of the law.

Here’s a cynical spin sample from the paper:

teenagers with hammers
“built a safe place for gardening
because neighbors told us
that’s what they wanted”.

They call the result Covanta Park, an awesome version of Dublin’s polluted Sean Moore Park (Sandymount Dump Park). Who needs EPA professionals when you have gutsy all-American teenagers with hammers!

Other spin words include

• Special Needs People
• Green Team
• Pavilion in a Rainbow of Colors
• Garden beds beautify former trash incinerator site

How many of the Special Needs People are handicapped because of the pollution floating in the air before they were born?

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[1] Merrimack Valley, MA., USA. August 05, 2009.

Did American CBRE Try To Spin Ireland’s Supreme Court

‘Fool me once shame on you,
fool me twice shame on me’.

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CBRE and ZOE Developments and The Poolbeg Incinerator.

Toni Soprano would be proud.
Omar and Prop Joe would be proud.
McNulty would see the rat.

CBRE is an American corporation which may or may not have had the arrogance to game the Irish Supreme Court.

In August 2009 The Irish High Court and The Irish Supreme Court were presented with ‘fanciful‘ valuations for Liam Carroll’s Zoe Developments. Fanciful may be or may not be Judicial language for complete fabrication or spin or Big Lies.

It is amazing that CBRE apparently believes it can allow its good name to be used to spin to honest Irish Judges.

Dublin City Council presented very curious paid-for information to the 2007 Poolbeg Incinerator Oral Hearing.

DCC’s lead man may have retired on a lucrative public service pension since then. Colleagues from the EPA have retired to be paid by the waste-to-toxins incineration industry, and of course did not influence the selection of employees for the subsequent EPA Incinerator hearing.

Oral Hearing information was presented for DCC by a paid employee of CBRE. The presentation contained no hard data. It did include some apparently highly misleading spin. Professional research managers know how to correctly present visual information.

Is CBRE also a member of the Galway Tent?
Feel free to email any insights or corrections to galwaytent@gmail.com

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CBRE And Fianna Fail

- Peter Malone chairs property company, CBRE Gunne.

CBRE Chairman Peter Malone ticks a few appropriate boxes. He is a well-known hotelier — not an engineer — and was the boss of Jurys; but Peter is also a favourite of politicians. Apart from being parachuted into the NRA chair by ministerial patronage, he has served as chairman of semi-state Bord na Mona, was a member of the review body on higher public sector remuneration and chairs property company, CBRE Gunne.

What is interesting about CBRE Gunne is that they gave Fianna Fail generous donations in 2004 and 2005. The NRA annual report tells you none of this.

Read more at “M50 directors unmasked” by Shane Ross, Sunday August 31 2008

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Q: What’s the difference between an American realtor, a prostitute, a car dealer, a bank, a public official, a property speculator, a financial regulator, an environmental reguator, a german toxicity expert and a monkey?

A: The prostitute is effectively regulated – in the canals of Utrecht surrounding Rabobank HQ.

Did American CBRE Try To Spin Ireland’s Supreme Court

‘fool me once shame on you,
fool me twice shame on me’.

____________

CBRE and ZOE Developments and The Poolbeg Incinerator.

Toni Soprano would be proud.
Omar and Prop Joe would be proud.
McNulty would see the rat.

CBRE is an American corporation which may or may not have had the arrogance to game the Irish Supreme Court.

Q: What’s the difference between an American realtor, a prostitute, a car dealer, a bank, a public official, a property speculator, a german toxicity expert or a monkey?

A: The prostitute is effectively regulated

(in the canals of Utrecht surrounding Rabobank HQ).

Dublin City Council presented very curious paid-for information to the 2007 Poolbeg Incinerator Oral Hearing.

DCC’s lead man may have retired on a lucrative public service pension since then. Colleagues from the EPA have retired to be paid by the waste-to-toxins incineration industry, and of course did not influence the selection of employees for the subsequent EPA Incinerator hearing.

Oral Hearing information was presented for DCC by a paid employee of CBRE. The presentation contained no hard data. It did include some apparently highly misleading spin. Professional research managers know how to correctly present visual information.

In August 2009 The Irish High Court and The Irish Supreme Court were presented with ‘fanciful‘ valuations for Liam Carroll’s Zoe Developments. Fanciful may be or may not be Judicial language for complete fabrication or spin or Big Lies.

It is amazing that CBRE apparently believes it can allow its good name to be used to spin to honest Irish Judges.

Is CBRE also a member of the Galway Tent?
Feel free to email any insights or corrections to galwaytent@gmail.com

______________________________

CBRE And Fianna Fail

- Peter Malone chairs property company, CBRE Gunne.

CBRE Chairman Peter Malone ticks a few appropriate boxes. He is a well-known hotelier — not an engineer — and was the boss of Jurys; but Peter is also a favourite of politicians. Apart from being parachuted into the NRA chair by ministerial patronage, he has served as chairman of semi-state Bord na Mona, was a member of the review body on higher public sector remuneration and chairs property company, CBRE Gunne.

What is interesting about CBRE Gunne is that they gave Fianna Fail generous donations in 2004 and 2005. The NRA annual report tells you none of this.

Read more at “M50 directors unmasked” by Shane Ross, Sunday August 31 2008

NAMA Petition (Lucey)

NAMA Petition (Brian M. Lucey)

Just to wreck Poolbeg it’s quite possible the patriotic and secretive NAMA will spend one thousand million Euro of your money, whilst shutting operating theatres. And as NAMA will be immune to Feedom of Information gaming you won’t ever know.

For example, the IGB site is on the speculators books for €450,000,000. The alleged book price of the neighbouring Fabrizia site is a secret (see comments by High Courts judges and Supreme Courts judges on evidence not provided by Liam Caroll’s ZOE Developments).

The petition below is pasted from the original Brian M. Lucey NAMA petition at
http://brianmlucey.googlepages.com/namapetitionandoireachtasemails

Reduced and reused john.gormley@oireachtas.ie is very disappointed he is already out of the oireachtas, list. However The Galway Tent has recycled John into the list.

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Brian M. Lucey’s nama petition and oireachtas emails

As you may know I [Brian M. Lucey] have been a significant critic of the government’s policies on NAMA. A few hard questions should be asked of all those who support same.

• What evidence does NAMA have that the current market price of property, land etc is not in fact the correct price to pay?
• What evidence does NAMA have that the current market price of these is not in fact going to decline for a number of years, as would be the case if Ireland were to follow the common experience of previous property crashes?
• Why would a temporary nationalisation of the banks be a bad thing, given that this would provide the taxpayer with a valuable asset which could be sold in future years?
• Why does no independent analyst support the governments view on NAMA? This includes the Swedish finance minister who ran their bad bank system, who said to the Irish Times that he “favours the more severe mark-to-market write-down of assets rather than a ‘through the cycle’ valuation.”, and that “it (NAMA) does not sound like the right solution to buy assets from private banks.” It also includes the IMF who said ” Insolvent institutions (with insufficient cash flows) should be closed, merged, or temporarily placed in public ownership until private sector solutions can be developed … there have been numerous instances (for example, Japan, Sweden and the United States),
• where a period of public ownership has been used to cleanse balance sheets and pave the way to sales back to the private sector”, in the context of saying that the likely losses for Irish banks were such as to render them insolvent.
• Why not force the equity and bond holders in Irish banks to take the first place in the queue to absorb the losses that the banks would have to book were current market prices to be paid for the loans made. After all, that’s what risk capital is for?
• If the state overpays for the loans relative to current market prices, what, apart from a functioning banking system, does the taxpayer gain?
• What percentage of book value of the loans should NAMA pay, given that current market prices for land and development properties are somewhere around 30% or less of book value?
• If NAMA were to pay say €60b for loans that are worth only €30b, how can this transfer of a full years tax revenue to private speculators be justified in this economic time?
• If, as is entirely possible, the loans transferred to NAMA do not provide sufficient income to meet the coupon payments of the bonds issues by NAMA, will the taxpayer, at least in the short term, not have to meet these payments?

If you are interested, below are the emails of all TD’s and Senators in the Oireachtas. It is useful to email them with these and other questions – pass the details onto your friends and family. Remind them that they dont have to email all seperate and individually. Just cut and paste the bloc of emails into the TO or CC line.

aengus.osnodaigh@oireachtas.ie, aine.brady@oireachtas.ie, Alan.Kelly@oireachtas.ie, alan.shatter@oireachtas.ie, Alex.White@oireachtas.ie, andrew.doyle@oireachtas.ie, Ann.Ormonde@oireachtas.ie, arthur.morgan@oireachtas.ie, bernard.allen@oireachtas.ie, bernard.durkan@oireachtas.ie, bertie.ahern@oireachtas.ie, beverley.flynn@oireachtas.ie, billy.kelleher@eircom.net, billy.timmins@oireachtas.ie, bobby.aylward@oireachtas.ie, boshea@eircom.net, brendan.howlin@oireachtas.ie, Brendan.Ryan@oireachtas.ie, brian.hayes@oireachtas.ie, brian.lenihan@oireachtas.ie, Brian.ODomhnaill@oireachtas.ie, Camillus.Glynn@oireachtas.ie, catherine.byrne@oireachtas.ie, Cecilia.Keaveney@oireachtas.ie, charles.flanagan@oireachtas.ie, charlie.oconnor@oireachtas.ie, chris.andrews@oireachtas.ie, christy.osullivan@oireachtas.ie, Ciaran.Cannon@oireachtas.ie, ciaran.cuffe@oireachtas.ie, ciaran.lynch@oireachtas.ie, conor.lenihan@oireachtas.ie, cyprian.brady@oireachtas.ie, damien.english@oireachtas.ie, Dan.Boyle@oireachtas.ie, daniel.neville@oireachtas.ie, dara.calleary@oireachtas.ie, darragh.obrien@oireachtas.ie, David.Norris@oireachtas.ie, david.stanton@oireachtas.ie, deirdre.clune@oireachtas.ie, Deirdre.DeBurca@oireachtas.ie, denis.naughten@oireachtas.ie, Denis.ODonovan@oireachtas.ie, Diarmuid.Wilson@oireachtas.ie, dick.roche@oireachtas.ie, dinny.mcginley@oireachtas.ie, Dominic.Hannigan@oireachtas.ie, Donie.Cassidy@oireachtas.ie, eamon.gilmore@oireachtas.ie, eamon.scanlon@oireachtas.ie, emmet.stagg@oireachtas.ie, enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie, Eoghan.Harris@oireachtas.ie, Eugene.Regan@oireachtas.ie, Feargal.Quinn@oireachtas.ie, fergus.odowd@oireachtas.ie, Fidelma.Healy.Eames@oireachtas.ie, finian.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, Fiona.OMalley@oireachtas.ie, Frances.Fitzgerald@oireachtas.ie, Francis.OBrien@oireachtas.ie, frank.fahey@oireachtas.ie, frank.feighan@oireachtas.ie, Geraldine.Feeney@oireachtas.ie, Ivana.Bacik@oireachtas.ie, Ivor.Callely@oireachtas.ie, jack.wall@oireachtas.ie, Jackie.Healy.Rae@oireachtas.ie, james.bannon@oireachtas.ie, james.reilly@oireachtas.ie, jan.osullivan@oireachtas.ie, jdeenihan@eircom.net, Jerry.Buttimer@oireachtas.ie, jim.mcdaid@oireachtas.ie, Jim.Walsh@oireachtas.ie, jimmy.devins@oireachtas.ie, joan.burton@oireachtas.ie, joanna.tuffy@oireachtas.ie, joe.behan@oireachtas.ie, joe.carey@oireachtas.ie, joe.costello@oireachtas.ie, joe.mchugh@oireachtas.ie, Joe.OReilly@oireachtas.ie, john.browne@oireachtas.ie, John.Carty@oireachtas.ie, john.cregan@oireachtas.ie, john.curran@oireachtas.ie, john.deasy@oireachtas.ie, John.Ellis@oireachtas.ie, john.gormley@oireachtas.ie, John.Hanafin@oireachtas.ie, john.mcguinness@oireachtas.ie, john.moloney@oireachtas.ie, john.odonoghue@oireachtas.ie, john.omahony@oireachtas.ie, john.perry@oireachtas.ie, johnny.brady@oireachtas.ie, JohnPaul.Phelan@oireachtas.ie, jotoole@oireachtas.ie, kathleen.lynch@oireachtas.ie, kieran.odonnell@oireachtas.ie, Kieran.Phelan@oireachtas.ie, Labhras.OMurchu@oireachtas.ie, Larry.Butler@oireachtas.ie, leo.varadkar@oireachtas.ie, Liam.Twomey@oireachtas.ie, Lisa.McDonald@oireachtas.ie, liz.mcmanus@oireachtas.ie, lucinda.creighton@oireachtas.ie, maire.hoctor@oireachtas.ie, Marc.MacSharry@oireachtas.ie, margaret.conlon@oireachtas.ie, Maria.Corrigan@oireachtas.ie, Mark.Daly@oireachtas.ie, Martin.Brady@oireachtas.ie, martin.ferris@oireachtas.ie, martin.mansergh@oireachtas.ie, mary.orourke@oireachtas.ie, mary.upton@oireachtas.ie, mary_wallace@health.irlgov.ie, marya.white@oireachtas.ie, MaryM.White@oireachtas.ie, mattie.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, Maurice.Cummins@oireachtas.ie, michael.ahern@oireachtas.ie, michael.creed@oireachtas.ie, michael.darcy@oireachtas.ie, michael.finneran@oireachtas.ie, michael.fitzpatrick@oireachtas.ie, michael.higgins@oireachtas.ie, michael.kennedy@oireachtas.ie, michael.kitt@oireachtas.ie, michael.lowry@oireachtas.ie, Michael.McCarthy@oireachtas.ie, michael.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, michael.moynihan.td@oireachtas.ie, michael.mulcahy@oireachtas.ie, michael.noonan@oireachtas.ie, michael.ring@oireachtas.ie, michael.woods@oireachtas.ie, mj.nolan@oireachtas.ie, ned.okeeffe@oireachtas.ie, Ned.OSullivan@oireachtas.ie, niall.blaney@oireachtas.ie, niall.collins@oireachtas.ie, Nicky.McFadden@oireachtas.ie, noel.ahern@oireachtas.ie, noel.coonan@oireachtas.ie, noel.grealish@oireachtas.ie, noel.oflynn@oireachtas.ie, noel.treacy@oireachtas.ie, ocaolain@oireachtas.ie, olivia.mitchell@oireachtas.ie, olwyn.enright@oireachtas.ie, Paddy.Burke@oireachtas.ie, padraic.mccormack@oireachtas.ie, Paschal.Donohoe@oireachtas.ie, pat.breen@oireachtas.ie, PAT.MOYLAN@oireachtas.ie, pat.rabbitte@oireachtas.ie, patthecope.gallagher@oireachtas.ie, Paudie.Coffey@oireachtas.ie, Paul.Bradford@oireachtas.ie, Paul.Coghlan@oireachtas.ie, paul.connaughton@oireachtas.ie, paul.gogarty@oireachtas.ie, paul.kehoe@oireachtas.ie, Pearse.Doherty@oireachtas.ie, Peter.Callanan@oireachtas.ie, peter.kelly@oireachtas.ie, peter.power@oireachtas.ie, Phil.Prendergast@oireachtas.ie, philip.hogan@oireachtas.ie, pj.sheehan@oireachtas.ie, richard.bruton@oireachtas.ie, roisin.shortall@oireachtas.ie, Ronan.Mullen@oireachtas.ie, rory.ohanlon@oireachtas.ie, ruairi.quinn@oireachtas.ie, seamus.kirk@oireachtas.ie, sean.barrett@oireachtas.ie, sean.connick@oireachtas.ie, sean.fleming@oireachtas.ie, sean.ofearghail@oireachtas.ie, sean.power@oireachtas.ie, sean.sherlock@oireachtas.ie, sean@ardagh.org, sean_haughey@education.gov.ie, seymour.crawford@oireachtas.ie, shane.mcentee@oireachtas.ie, Shane.Ross@oireachtas.ie, simon.coveney@oireachtas.ie, tanaiste@entemp.ie, terence.flanagan@oireachtas.ie, Terry.Leyden@oireachtas.ie, thomas.byrne@oireachtas.ie, thomas.p.broughan@oireachtas.ie, timmy.dooley@oireachtas.ie, tom.hayes@oireachtas.ie, tom.mcellistrim@oireachtas.ie, tom.sheahan@oireachtas.ie, Tony.Kett@oireachtas.ie, trevor.sargent@oireachtas.ie, ulick.burke@oireachtas.ie, willie.penrose@oireachtas.ie

NAMA Petition (Brian M. Lucey)

Just to wreck Poolbeg it’s quite possible the patriotic and secretive NAMA will spend one thousand million Euro of your money, whilst shutting operating theatres. And as NAMA will be immune to Feedom of Information gaming you won’t ever know.

For example, the IGB site is on the speculators books for €450,000,000. The alleged book price of the neighbouring Fabrizia site is a secret (see comments by High Courts judges and Supreme Courts judges on evidence not provided by Liam Caroll’s ZOE Developments).

The petition below is pasted from the original Brian M. Lucey NAMA petition at
http://brianmlucey.googlepages.com/namapetitionandoireachtasemails

Reduced and reused john.gormley@oireachtas.ie is very disappointed he is already out of the oireachtas, list. However The Galway Tent has recycled John into the list.

_________________

Brian M. Lucey’s nama petition and oireachtas emails

As you may know I [Brian M. Lucey] have been a significant critic of the government’s policies on NAMA. A few hard questions should be asked of all those who support same.

• What evidence does NAMA have that the current market price of property, land etc is not in fact the correct price to pay?
• What evidence does NAMA have that the current market price of these is not in fact going to decline for a number of years, as would be the case if Ireland were to follow the common experience of previous property crashes?
• Why would a temporary nationalisation of the banks be a bad thing, given that this would provide the taxpayer with a valuable asset which could be sold in future years?
• Why does no independent analyst support the governments view on NAMA? This includes the Swedish finance minister who ran their bad bank system, who said to the Irish Times that he “favours the more severe mark-to-market write-down of assets rather than a ‘through the cycle’ valuation.”, and that “it (NAMA) does not sound like the right solution to buy assets from private banks.” It also includes the IMF who said ” Insolvent institutions (with insufficient cash flows) should be closed, merged, or temporarily placed in public ownership until private sector solutions can be developed … there have been numerous instances (for example, Japan, Sweden and the United States),
• where a period of public ownership has been used to cleanse balance sheets and pave the way to sales back to the private sector”, in the context of saying that the likely losses for Irish banks were such as to render them insolvent.
• Why not force the equity and bond holders in Irish banks to take the first place in the queue to absorb the losses that the banks would have to book were current market prices to be paid for the loans made. After all, that’s what risk capital is for?
• If the state overpays for the loans relative to current market prices, what, apart from a functioning banking system, does the taxpayer gain?
• What percentage of book value of the loans should NAMA pay, given that current market prices for land and development properties are somewhere around 30% or less of book value?
• If NAMA were to pay say €60b for loans that are worth only €30b, how can this transfer of a full years tax revenue to private speculators be justified in this economic time?
• If, as is entirely possible, the loans transferred to NAMA do not provide sufficient income to meet the coupon payments of the bonds issues by NAMA, will the taxpayer, at least in the short term, not have to meet these payments?

If you are interested, below are the emails of all TD’s and Senators in the Oireachtas. It is useful to email them with these and other questions – pass the details onto your friends and family. Remind them that they dont have to email all seperate and individually. Just cut and paste the bloc of emails into the TO or CC line.

aengus.osnodaigh@oireachtas.ie, aine.brady@oireachtas.ie, Alan.Kelly@oireachtas.ie, alan.shatter@oireachtas.ie, Alex.White@oireachtas.ie, andrew.doyle@oireachtas.ie, Ann.Ormonde@oireachtas.ie, arthur.morgan@oireachtas.ie, bernard.allen@oireachtas.ie, bernard.durkan@oireachtas.ie, bertie.ahern@oireachtas.ie, beverley.flynn@oireachtas.ie, billy.kelleher@eircom.net, billy.timmins@oireachtas.ie, bobby.aylward@oireachtas.ie, boshea@eircom.net, brendan.howlin@oireachtas.ie, Brendan.Ryan@oireachtas.ie, brian.hayes@oireachtas.ie, brian.lenihan@oireachtas.ie, Brian.ODomhnaill@oireachtas.ie, Camillus.Glynn@oireachtas.ie, catherine.byrne@oireachtas.ie, Cecilia.Keaveney@oireachtas.ie, charles.flanagan@oireachtas.ie, charlie.oconnor@oireachtas.ie, chris.andrews@oireachtas.ie, christy.osullivan@oireachtas.ie, Ciaran.Cannon@oireachtas.ie, ciaran.cuffe@oireachtas.ie, ciaran.lynch@oireachtas.ie, conor.lenihan@oireachtas.ie, cyprian.brady@oireachtas.ie, damien.english@oireachtas.ie, Dan.Boyle@oireachtas.ie, daniel.neville@oireachtas.ie, dara.calleary@oireachtas.ie, darragh.obrien@oireachtas.ie, David.Norris@oireachtas.ie, david.stanton@oireachtas.ie, deirdre.clune@oireachtas.ie, Deirdre.DeBurca@oireachtas.ie, denis.naughten@oireachtas.ie, Denis.ODonovan@oireachtas.ie, Diarmuid.Wilson@oireachtas.ie, dick.roche@oireachtas.ie, dinny.mcginley@oireachtas.ie, Dominic.Hannigan@oireachtas.ie, Donie.Cassidy@oireachtas.ie, eamon.gilmore@oireachtas.ie, eamon.scanlon@oireachtas.ie, emmet.stagg@oireachtas.ie, enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie, Eoghan.Harris@oireachtas.ie, Eugene.Regan@oireachtas.ie, Feargal.Quinn@oireachtas.ie, fergus.odowd@oireachtas.ie, Fidelma.Healy.Eames@oireachtas.ie, finian.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, Fiona.OMalley@oireachtas.ie, Frances.Fitzgerald@oireachtas.ie, Francis.OBrien@oireachtas.ie, frank.fahey@oireachtas.ie, frank.feighan@oireachtas.ie, Geraldine.Feeney@oireachtas.ie, Ivana.Bacik@oireachtas.ie, Ivor.Callely@oireachtas.ie, jack.wall@oireachtas.ie, Jackie.Healy.Rae@oireachtas.ie, james.bannon@oireachtas.ie, james.reilly@oireachtas.ie, jan.osullivan@oireachtas.ie, jdeenihan@eircom.net, Jerry.Buttimer@oireachtas.ie, jim.mcdaid@oireachtas.ie, Jim.Walsh@oireachtas.ie, jimmy.devins@oireachtas.ie, joan.burton@oireachtas.ie, joanna.tuffy@oireachtas.ie, joe.behan@oireachtas.ie, joe.carey@oireachtas.ie, joe.costello@oireachtas.ie, joe.mchugh@oireachtas.ie, Joe.OReilly@oireachtas.ie, john.browne@oireachtas.ie, John.Carty@oireachtas.ie, john.cregan@oireachtas.ie, john.curran@oireachtas.ie, john.deasy@oireachtas.ie, John.Ellis@oireachtas.ie, john.gormley@oireachtas.ie, John.Hanafin@oireachtas.ie, john.mcguinness@oireachtas.ie, john.moloney@oireachtas.ie, john.odonoghue@oireachtas.ie, john.omahony@oireachtas.ie, john.perry@oireachtas.ie, johnny.brady@oireachtas.ie, JohnPaul.Phelan@oireachtas.ie, jotoole@oireachtas.ie, kathleen.lynch@oireachtas.ie, kieran.odonnell@oireachtas.ie, Kieran.Phelan@oireachtas.ie, Labhras.OMurchu@oireachtas.ie, Larry.Butler@oireachtas.ie, leo.varadkar@oireachtas.ie, Liam.Twomey@oireachtas.ie, Lisa.McDonald@oireachtas.ie, liz.mcmanus@oireachtas.ie, lucinda.creighton@oireachtas.ie, maire.hoctor@oireachtas.ie, Marc.MacSharry@oireachtas.ie, margaret.conlon@oireachtas.ie, Maria.Corrigan@oireachtas.ie, Mark.Daly@oireachtas.ie, Martin.Brady@oireachtas.ie, martin.ferris@oireachtas.ie, martin.mansergh@oireachtas.ie, mary.orourke@oireachtas.ie, mary.upton@oireachtas.ie, mary_wallace@health.irlgov.ie, marya.white@oireachtas.ie, MaryM.White@oireachtas.ie, mattie.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, Maurice.Cummins@oireachtas.ie, michael.ahern@oireachtas.ie, michael.creed@oireachtas.ie, michael.darcy@oireachtas.ie, michael.finneran@oireachtas.ie, michael.fitzpatrick@oireachtas.ie, michael.higgins@oireachtas.ie, michael.kennedy@oireachtas.ie, michael.kitt@oireachtas.ie, michael.lowry@oireachtas.ie, Michael.McCarthy@oireachtas.ie, michael.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie, michael.moynihan.td@oireachtas.ie, michael.mulcahy@oireachtas.ie, michael.noonan@oireachtas.ie, michael.ring@oireachtas.ie, michael.woods@oireachtas.ie, mj.nolan@oireachtas.ie, ned.okeeffe@oireachtas.ie, Ned.OSullivan@oireachtas.ie, niall.blaney@oireachtas.ie, niall.collins@oireachtas.ie, Nicky.McFadden@oireachtas.ie, noel.ahern@oireachtas.ie, noel.coonan@oireachtas.ie, noel.grealish@oireachtas.ie, noel.oflynn@oireachtas.ie, noel.treacy@oireachtas.ie, ocaolain@oireachtas.ie, olivia.mitchell@oireachtas.ie, olwyn.enright@oireachtas.ie, Paddy.Burke@oireachtas.ie, padraic.mccormack@oireachtas.ie, Paschal.Donohoe@oireachtas.ie, pat.breen@oireachtas.ie, PAT.MOYLAN@oireachtas.ie, pat.rabbitte@oireachtas.ie, patthecope.gallagher@oireachtas.ie, Paudie.Coffey@oireachtas.ie, Paul.Bradford@oireachtas.ie, Paul.Coghlan@oireachtas.ie, paul.connaughton@oireachtas.ie, paul.gogarty@oireachtas.ie, paul.kehoe@oireachtas.ie, Pearse.Doherty@oireachtas.ie, Peter.Callanan@oireachtas.ie, peter.kelly@oireachtas.ie, peter.power@oireachtas.ie, Phil.Prendergast@oireachtas.ie, philip.hogan@oireachtas.ie, pj.sheehan@oireachtas.ie, richard.bruton@oireachtas.ie, roisin.shortall@oireachtas.ie, Ronan.Mullen@oireachtas.ie, rory.ohanlon@oireachtas.ie, ruairi.quinn@oireachtas.ie, seamus.kirk@oireachtas.ie, sean.barrett@oireachtas.ie, sean.connick@oireachtas.ie, sean.fleming@oireachtas.ie, sean.ofearghail@oireachtas.ie, sean.power@oireachtas.ie, sean.sherlock@oireachtas.ie, sean@ardagh.org, sean_haughey@education.gov.ie, seymour.crawford@oireachtas.ie, shane.mcentee@oireachtas.ie, Shane.Ross@oireachtas.ie, simon.coveney@oireachtas.ie, tanaiste@entemp.ie, terence.flanagan@oireachtas.ie, Terry.Leyden@oireachtas.ie, thomas.byrne@oireachtas.ie, thomas.p.broughan@oireachtas.ie, timmy.dooley@oireachtas.ie, tom.hayes@oireachtas.ie, tom.mcellistrim@oireachtas.ie, tom.sheahan@oireachtas.ie, Tony.Kett@oireachtas.ie, trevor.sargent@oireachtas.ie, ulick.burke@oireachtas.ie, willie.penrose@oireachtas.ie